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Shifts. we all know that. there's few who don't. it's interesting a guy who's about the culture of conviction and you obviously see those issues in 2006 when he had to beat bob casey. he obviously adapted to try and do that proper terrain. but then he got demolished by 18 points. >> there have been a number of people, robert, who suggested when bella got sick, it kind of would give him an opportunity to say, look. you know, it's time for me to get out. it's time for me to support. do you see if pennsylvania -- obviously, there's no sign that that's going to happen right now. he's going to wait...

Lead by mitt romney. now, in just a few hours, santorum does go back on the campaign trail in pennsylvania after taking time off to be with his ailing 3-year-old daughter, bella, who suffers from a rare genetic condition. she's now back home. and he will be back on the trail this afternoon. let's talk more about 2012 with msnbc contributor and former santorum communications director, robert trainham and nbc's luke russert who is in town for a rare visit. >> how are you? good to see you. >> good morning. >> let me ask you first of all the poll that shows that santorum, that people want him to...

>> he lost across the board with voters. among democrats and independents, women and men, blacks and whites, young and old, rich and poor. >> we fired him as senator. why promote him to president? >> effective ad? what do you think, robert? >> i don't know if it's really effective or not. i disagree with all of the folks out there perhaps in new york and washington, d.c., who think they know pennsylvania politics. pennsylvanians know rick santorum. he's a household name. and yes, there's no question that he lost his race by 18 points, but having a negative ad in pennsylvania against rick santo...

Legitimate shot of winning iowa? >> i think he does. this shows the republican base is dissatisfied with all the candidates. mitt romney appears to be the leader. but giving a fairly small percentage of the vote, it's scattered among all the candidates. none of the republican candidates have yet to solidify their support among the republican base. that's because they're all deeply flawed and no candidate has emerged that i think has the capacity to take on president obama and win. >> robert, how does this change the dynamic in the republican race if your former boss, rick santorum wins in iowa...

Ohio is showing some signs of recovery. i think that's based in part upon the president's policies. it will be a hard fought campaign, but i think in the end, president obama will once again carry the ultimate swing state, which is ohio. >> robert, as we talk about the fact that obama's campaign has an enormous reelection arm already in motion, do you think that the republican, whatever the nominee or whoever the nominee is going to be, really comes in at such a disadvantagement because they've lost time through the pry mayor sni. >> financially, yes. there's no question about it. it's very, v...