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>> joining me now, democratic strategist and msnbc contributor, crystal ball and robert trainham. crystal, robert, what is your reaction to giuliani's opinion that romney is more of an elitist than gingrich? >> mayor giuliani has interesting points. as someone that ran for president in 2008, he does have some perspective. however, at the end of the day, when you look at the tendency of overall republican voters, they want president obama defeated no matter who the republican nominee is going to be. if in fact mitt romney is going to be the nominee which i think he's very much in the driver's s...

Speaker probably shouldn't be talking about that given a $500,000 bill at tiffany's. >> robert, these are both wealthy guys here. can either of them convince middle america that they will only fight not just for the wealthy but going to fight for them, too? >> sure. they can certainly make that argument. the question becomes whether or not the independents in the battleground states will buy something like that. republicans for the most part are going to vote for the republican candidate. hard-core democrats are going to vote for president obama. it's the independents in the swing states that ...

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