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Wide to be here, jason jason and former bush cheney senior adviser robert trainham. jason i'm not letting you go first. robert, the president already tweeting this morning saying there are people involved in the investigation who are bad. help me understand, what could the president's motive be here? does he think he's going to spook them, scare them? >> i hate to say this but that's predictable of the president, part of his nomenclature. he overexaggerates and says those things. i would have hoped this would have been a presidential moment where he would have restrained himself and said don't...

They understand here that we're talking about the jihadists, the islamic terrorists. and it's very obvious to most of them. the reception is quite warm. maybe they can teach us a bit how to interpret language. >> i'd like to bring in robert trainham and howard dean. good to see you. governor, i want to start with you first. what do you make of carson's change in tone, and do you think when he was speaking originally that he was speaking to the syrian people when he talked about the mad dogs? wasn't he speaking to the u.s., to his potential constituents? >> i think his tone today was pretty goo...

Walking things back, robert? >> i think he did. it's hard to put the toothpaste back in the tube. he used a comment of rabid dogs in the context of the syrian refugees. it's good he's going over there to get a unique perspective. clearly his staff has walked him through the intricacies of middle eastern politics and politics of foreign policy and how your words really have a lot of merit. he appeared to be very thoughtful. somewhat substantive. the issue is what is your plan about the syrian refugee crisis, and what are you specifically going to do about it because that is the issue. that's th...

He's not really saying anything of substance at this point. >> robert, i want to talk to you about someone that very few people seem to be talk about these days. rick santorum pinning his hopes on winning iowa, just like he did in 2012. your former boss. that's why we're talking about him with you. do you really see that happening this time? do you caessee santorum even competing in iowa? why has he not gone after donald trump more aggressively? >> well, good morning, and happy thanksgiving to you, craig. two things. you're absolutely correct. rick santorum did win iowa. remember, it's 99 coun...

Performance december 15th, is his campaign done? or does he have the money and the infrastructure in place to no matter what continue on through february? >> i think that the money that jeb bush has at this point allows him to go into february into the primaries and caucuses. but i think his campaign is definitely in trouble and it has been since the first debate. every single debate, he stands up on a stage with a slew of candidates, including donald trump, and he looks smaller and smaller and smaller. and he just doesn't look ready for primetime. i think that the problem is that his message ...