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Any can then have a bastion that extends from baghdad to syria. they can then potentially over the years, because they're pretty sophisticated, begin to orient themselves to go to western europe and eventually to the united states. i don't think that's going to happen. i think the baghdad forces themselves are enough to stop them. to be able to roll them back does mean we have to provide some surgical assistance to them. the president took a very prudent, wise decision. >> robert young pelten was on with me earlier sir, admiral, directed to you he said he believes this force of what he says is...

Lubricated with money. >> let me ask you, if you can't call these militias partners, can you assign a word to describe them? >> well, they are participants in the conflict. they're participants who make the conflict even more sharply a sectarian conflict and that's not what we want. >> okay. sergeant, i just spoke with robert young pelten and he is very confident that the u.s. in their sarurgical strikes will essentially eradicate isis. do you concur with that? this is a force of maybe 2,000, depending on where you get your numbers from. >> i think if that's the mission of the soldiers and air...

One rebel group is effectively a branch of al-qaeda. rebel group has provided social services to build support with people in the areas it controls. if that group and others like it gain control of syria's chemical weapons, they could smuggle them out of country and use those weapons in future attacks. robert young pelten is an author and filmmaker and spent time with al-qaeda members around the world since the group was formed. at one point osama bin laden was his neighbor. good to see you. >> how are you? >> i'm well, sir. thank you. my question is, do you believe as others do that al-qaeda ...

Of of this, because you wouldn't expect a group of people to show up in a plot like this. what is that $22 million program that they may have raided in order to fund this program? >> well, at least part of that money was designed for a website that was for primarily the military to use. it was started by two journalists, easen jordan, the former head of cnn, and robert young pelten, a writer, and he writes about dangerous places and travels around and documents war zones. they had done it in iraq -- >> that was iraq slogger. i used to use it every day. >> their idea was to do the same thing fo...

>> so isis, sir, expands its reach across iraq, what do you think the u.s. should be doing right now? >> well, it's a simple formula. senator feinstein really laid it out very well. the iraqis together have to solve their own problem. to do that, the parliament has to put together a government that is acceptable to sunni, kurd and shia minorities, or ethnic groups. that can be done. what we've done with our 300 special forces who are going in is they will fortify the intelligence and command and control, backbones of the iraqi forces. >> okay. on the heels of that, i spoke yesterday to journal...