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That he knowingly, willing lee, intentionally kept it and appears according to this full transcript to be trying to show it to other people. we know from our reporting no one else in that room had a secret clearance. >> secret, secret, look at this, he says. it's right there in the transcript. and those words could have profound implications. paula reid, we will come back to you in a while. thank you so much for laying the groundwork what really moves the ball forward in all of this reporting today. >> now, former president trump is expected to turn himself in and appear in a miami federal cou...

Knows. >> they basically break out from an espionage act charge, which is ludicrous under the facts of this case, and i can certainly explain it, and several obstruction-based-type charges and then false statement charges, which are actually, again, kind of a crazy stretch just from the facts as we know it. so there's a lot to pick at eventually from the defense side, but that appears to be the charges and it appears to be something that will get off the ground on tuesday. >> reporter: and what you hear there is the beginnings of how they're going to defend this. the 793 charge, the espionage ...

Argument in this case, he is talking about something else, but he's saying, look at this information. so, dan, he's talking to people and we just heard from paula reid that they do not have the status that would be required to reveal this information. so does that speak some to the espionage charge or what could be an espionage charge? >> of course. of course it does. it speaks to, again, for every one of these seven crimes they have to prove -- the government has to prove knowledge, intent and it sort of goes beyond that. are you taking the law into your own hands? i know what the law is, i'm...

And foremost, that indictment, will the justice department release it now that donald trump has publicly acknowledged he has been informed through his attorney that he's been charged with these seven counts. that is the thing to look for first because that is what the entire case and the every moment going forward here at this courthouse will be turning on. what is charged in that indictment. but then there is a lot of questions still about what kind of activity we might see today in the federal courthouse. are the prosecutors here, are they going to still be working on this case or working on...

We're told from our sources that at this point you can hear him rustling through papers. this thing just came up. look. this was him. they presented me this. this is off the record, but they presented me this. this was him. this was the defense department and him. we looked at some -- this was him. this wasn't done by me, this was him. i'm going to stop for just a second. he says this was him at least four times in this recording. clearly trying to emphasize the fact that whatever he is pointing to was allegedly written by mark milley, we know from our reporting that that is not true. so he go...