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So interesting to hear you say that since the election, the groups have been ready to move on and to ron desantis ron desantis obviously thought he saw an opening here a couple of weeks ago when donald trump first floated the idea that he was going to be arrested on a tuesday that he ended up not being arrested on desantis certainly followed the script and went after alvin bragg but also raise the tawdry details of the stormy daniels affair that is gone because i think ron desantis is also aware of what you just learned in your groups and what we saw how everyone reacted on capitol hill . so h...

Fly to new york on on monday and will be arraigned in lower manhattan on tuesday, and sources tell cnn that the indictment includes more than 30 counts related to business fraud , though the specifics remain under seal. we'll see what evidence there is when that indictment is released, but first this morning, trump's lawyers told cnn's dana bash that there is no case there. very much anticipated motion to dismiss coming because there's no law that fits this. this is a case of political persecution. had he not been running for office right now for the office of the presidency, which by the way ...

Strongest case when you add account like that put it in front of a jury can change the jury's mind about the severity of the case that they're looking at. yeah i mean, that seems like a no brainer. don't currently under investigation, exactly obstructing mar-a-lago. he's previously under investigation for russia. don't attack the judge, but that's something that former president has done repeatedly and it's something historically he has gotten away with. now. it's tricky because judges are very reluctant to issue gag orders in cases because of free speech questions one for any citizen, but to ...

Problematic witness. but but, andrew, i wonder if, as we are preparing for tuesday, when we will actually have some facts here, if you want if you are looking for a rock solid case, or at least a pretty solid case . what are you looking for? in the indictment in the indictment? so when we read the indictment on tuesday, what we want to see is, are those facts those details those pieces of evidence, maybe references to witnesses that we have not heard from yet that we haven't seen going in and out of the grand jury offices and things like that. so we all know about michael cohen. we know about ...

You? was he lying then? or is he lying now contrast how he and michael cohen following the indictment ran two cameras to talk about it, whereas the one defense witness that we know about attorney robert costello. i reached out to him. we all know robert costello is a chatty guy, he said. i'm sorry i have to decline to comment because that could be a key witness. speaking of problematic clients here, the former president is someone who is difficult to present in part because he does things like this attacking the judge. in this case, the actual judge who is gonna be a part of the process starti...