trump we'll never be the same politically in this country. >> there is a long way to go as -- before voters begin to cast ballots in the iowa caucus, but it appears we could be facing a biden/trump rematch and there is some early polls, one from quinnipiac from august 10th, to the 14th, about where things stand. it is a close race according to the one poll. biden 47%, and 46% choice for president. and that is a national poll. trump's in that same poll, 38%. biden is at 40%. so this even despite all of this, the general election could be tight. >> anyone who lives through 2016 knows it will be ridiculous to rule anybody out right now. because everybody who did that was wrong in 2016. but i do think a poll is only as good as the questions are and only reflects the moment in time. you could not look at a poll now and say what it will mean in november of 2024. but we look at all of these polls consistently and they show the same picture now and i think