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>> what did you discover in your show? >> what you start to see is, these types of folks, they aren't in a database. people aren't tracked. there's no way to know who those people are, and really keep the firearms out of their hands. the shop i worked in did an incredible job of doing background checks on people. they ran all the specs they had to. >> it was in virginia. >> fredericksburg, they did everything to the letter of the law. more than other shops. they were great, this part of the puzzle is one that is missing doing background checks on people. >> how lax is it in reality? >> i mean,...

And it -- i -- you know, i don't have restful nights because i -- i think about the long road my son has ahead of him, and what could -- what kind of future does he have. but at the same time, piers, my son is alive, i can talk to him every day. >> bill, what is your message to the families, who may be watching, who may have children in a similar position, late teens or early 20s who have been in mental institutions for a few days at a time. a similar pattern to what you went through. what is your advice to them? >> don't hide it. having mental illness 234 your family, should not be embarrassi...

Of it, did you not worry it might eat you, drag you under the water? do something horrible to you like sharks tend to do? >> well, i've been around sharks for many years. i've dove with bull sharks and very aggressive sharks, and i know that they're harmless creatures. their size might be frightening, except they eat plankton and small organisms, i wasn't scared at all. >> when you see the video, what goes through your mind? >> when i watch the video, it's almost a surreal moment. because at the moment when i did it so many things are going through your head, you don't realize you're holding o...

Responsible decisions. >> does that ever happen? >> not really. >> so isn't it right to be -- i think there's also a time when there should be a nanny state. >> this is when you provide kids with helmets and you make them wear helmets. you have to have seat belts in cars. >> they improve the quality of life of people? >> no, as much as people were against the smoking ban, when that went through a few years ago, nobody's talking about it now. you love the fact that you can go to a restaurant and the guy next to you is not puffing up. it's great. not many people die from secondhand obesity. i ne...

It might have absolutely harmed it, i might feel regretful about it if i might have injured it. in the long run, it was definitely an experience that might be once in a lifetime. as jeff was saying, the shark populations are really down and who knows if i might ever see one ever again. >> it was certainly an extraordinary bit of video. something i would not do in a lifetime. thank you very much for joining me. and jeff, thank you very much for joining me. >> my pleasure. >> we'll be right back.