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He's a liar. that's his breast defense. >> i -- >> i said that you too have roger stone on his back. roger has a tattoo on his back, so that is layered. let me ask you, randy. >> yes. >> sam says roger's a lialiar - >> you said he was lying. >> he exaggerates. >> he exaggerates, that's not lying. >> randy -- >> randy, i haven't done the question yet. here's the question, you'll know it because it has a question mark at the end. >> good humor. >> julian assange -- >> yes. >> do you have any way of knowing if roger is lying? >> i can tell you for sure that roger had no contact with julian assang...

Stone got himself into this mess. >> i said to roger, you're giving yourself a lot of exposure, claiming you're in communication with julians assange. >> did mueller ask you about trump's communication with julian assange? >> which brings us to question two, why did roger stone promote wikileaksing in 2016 but trump the can bat touted wikileaks more than 20 times during the campaign. >> he is a courageous journalist who has an incredible track record for authenticity. say this about julian assange, i reject the idea that he's a russian asset. i reject the idea that wikileaks is a russian front...

Why should we believe you if you go before the house committee and claim the fifth because you think a truthful answer can incriminate you. >> randy's term, but only if you answer. he raises a fair point. >> which one is that? >> i'm going to give it to you, if you took the fifth previously on the grounds it may incriminate you, why should americans believe you when you say that roger is lying and you also seem to be offering the same defense about podesta. >> why as a lawyer do you not prescribe for people to invoke the fifth amendment. there are reasons why people invoke the fifth amendment....

Assange, i have not met with mr. assange, and i never said i had, i said we communicated through an intermediary, who was a mutual friend. >> never said i had. stone later claimed he couldn't reveal that intermediary unless he was authorized. then stone flipped again saying that the supposed intermediary, roger credco. >> putin to me is a consummate politician for russia. a little less consummate when dealing with the rest of the world, but still pretty skilled. that was a historical moment that the democrats could have had. >> they certainly could. >> they could have had it. but they were suc...

Post" has reported that in the spring of 2016, before anybody knew about the hacking by the russians into the democratic national committee, roger stone was telling people that there is going to be these emails that a group has that wikileaks has, and that they're going to be publishing these during the campaign and they're going to cause a lot of problems for podesta and for clinton. i mean doesn't that contradict what you were told? >> he never said that. >> you're talking about "the washington post" story that i was quoted as on the record -- >> thomas not t"the washington post" story, this...