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Narrow path on some sort of border fencing. that's the only thing that democrats are willing to talk about something normandy fencing, a particular type of structure. trump would then call it a wall. but i think it seems that the increasingly likely path the president will take is to declare a national emergency to embark on this on his own behalf. i think actually from a political standpoint it's a bit of a win-win for him, in terms of how his base will interpret this. they will be happy he will take action. even if the courts strike it down, a lot of people said it could be a real possibilit...

She doesn't want the wall? she's costing the country hundreds of billions of dollars because what's happening is when you have a porous border and when you have drugs pouring in and when have you people dying all over the country because of people like nancy pelosi who don't want to give proper border security for political reasons, she's doing a terrible disservice to our country. >> let's talk about that story with richard johnson, a lecturer in u.s. politics and international relations at lancaster university. he joins us now from devon, england. thank you for joining us. always good to see...

You:00 it was the idea of the self-described dirty trickster georgeer stone we know has been indicted, a former trump adviser. we know it was an analysis of the illegal immigration. candidate trump played it. he stuck with the roger stone wall for political purposes. so that's kind of an interesting side note on this, now he's properly boxed in on the wall since it was such a big part of his campaign. so that how you see it? >> i think the politics of it are very important. it's become a titanic issue in a republican party. we're talking something like nine in ten republicans believe that sign...