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Sincere friendship >> on a scale of 1 to 10, how effective is roger at getting his message out? >> we saw today that roger is very astute at his messaging. >> is that a 8 >> compared to whom, you know? >> compared to trump compared to the people in this probe. compared to paul manafort who is richer than stone. i ask you because i'm going to play a little more of roger stone. bob mueller has chosen to pick a fight with someone who knows, like trump, how to fight big and loud and clearly rough that's part of the allegation. so the question is, is this the end of the probe or the middle because ...

Campaign or a story that infowars was developing. i think we're going to find this stuff out, but i understand what you're talking about. >> when you look at roger stone today on the courthouse steps, very defiant do you believe that the pressure would get to him, that he would ever flip, cooperate or plea >> i've always wondered about roger's limitations when it comes to what he can take and the pressure he can bear up under, and i've seen no end to his boundaries i mean, i've seen no boundaries. it seems to me like he can take a lot of this pressure listen, ari, you know, you've been talker ...

Is your own deduction? >> well, over my entire life going -- jerry, you come up with these deductions that are often right, you're going to have trouble getting people to believe them. >> right there you have corsi helping stone's defense, arguing it was not collusion, maybe just attempted collusion, but then corsi hurt stone by backing up what mueller charged today, allegedly that roger stone did intend to obstruct and mislead congress >> and why did roger stone want you to lie about the podesta information? >> you'll have to ask roger stone. i was given immunity by the mueller prosecutors in...

Have contacted my attorneys and i would have been more than willing to surrender voluntarily. they terrorized my wife, my dogs -- >> that's the message, like i said he's the only one to come out and speak on the steps look at it already echoing in this brawl as we see take a look. >> the most embarrassingly excessive raid on a person's house i've seen -- >> roger stone's asleep, armed agents stormed into his home >> heavily armed long guns. for someone like roger stone. >> much like the predawn raid that captured elian gonzalez >> certainly roger knows how to manage the narrative he is very as...

Godfather" in an indictment, he's alleging it's a crime sean carter put it in a famous double entendre, shoot at you actors like movie directors, but this ain't a movie, dog. anyone still acting should know that by now. from stone, to the witness he threatened to, yes, that witness' dog which brings us finally to the roger stone associates we just heard from this week, russia witnesses. that includes person one and many angry with stone for the very conduct charged in mueller's new indictment >> and i think you're putting your old friend in danger. >> he put us all in danger, by the way, mike....