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We were doing before. we immediate to treat russia as it is. it's a rogue actor, now, and we need to treat it the way that we treat other rogue actors, like iran and north korea. and we need to call on the global community, not just our european allies, but allies and partners all across the world, to sanction russia. to, you know, treat it as a diplomatic pariah. so kick it out of international forums. to, again, do everything that we're doing in terms of deterrence, but more on a global level. and that's the distinction that i would make right there, that they started that effort, hopefully ...

>> is it time to start treating putin -- the way he is acting as a rogue actor, you know, in the way that we talk about iran and north korea, it seems he crossed that line. >> it seems we are. the international community is responding in a way that's totally unprecedented. going back to germany's response to this, it's a total aboutface from what their policy was a week ago. the fact that they are sending loads of lethal weapons to ukraine when they were reluctant to do that for obvious historical reasons with the message being, kill as many russians as possible. as for putin and what changed ...

Working with criminal hackers and they're providing them with attack vectors and they are profiting from this, yes. the three indicted today are part of the schemes. it is all one thing, craig, and they're saying that china is a rogue actor. >> china is working with hackers, ken delainian. thank you as always, sir. we expect to see president biden making the case for a big infrastructure deal. we just got word from the white house that things, surprise surprise, seem to be running a little behind. we're going to run those numbers and check in on the senators scrambling to finish up a deal

Devil is in the details, you have to get this right have intelligence capabilities, president trump made clear he spoke with the taliban and he made clear if you kill an american there will be in a norm is cost, we will do whatever it takes will come back in with the forces that we need to come back in with and from the moment that we began our conversation with the taliban in a serious way we didn't have a single american killed there is only a single attack in america it was a rogue actor, with the policy right, it's how you do it how you execute and how you implement our global count terror...

That's the whole point. this is supposed to be the gate keeper. this is supposed to be the person that makes sure things are running properly. if this person is doing this, if he's receiving these payments, there are two possibilities. a rogue actor. i really doubt that. much more likely this is just the way the company does business in which case it's not just him, there has to be lots of people and in which case it's the organization itself and probably goes up to the top. >> this is a jurisdictional question, but i think of tax cases often being brought through the federal government, right...