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I don't know. literally the director was kill the head and apparently had nothing against the body. specifically killing the head of 49ers' running back al gore -- frank gore, sorry. >> make sure we kill frank gore's head. we want him running sideways. we want his head sideways. >> williams now suspended indefinitely from the nfl after putting out bounties on opposing players. the recording the latest window into the kind of attitude and culture that gregg williams demanded. but is this all about a rogue team and a rogue coach with a rogue culture? or is this the kind of violence exactly the c...

Specifically targeting this athlete in very specific ways to legitimately harm him, to take him out of the game, now you have taken that to a whole another in my 40 years i have never heard or been around that. >> and when williams allegedly gave the speech you mentioned he knew he was being recorded. he also knew he was being investigated by the nfl for this whole bounty thing, shep. >> shepard: more people involved in this. excuse me, sean peyton among them met with roger goodell today. what does that mean for that case? >> the appeal lasted 90 minutes today and certainly greg williams' name...

Everything in the world to make sure we kill frank's head we want him running side ways, we want his head side ways." and about a receiver who was recovering from a knee energy he says "we need to decide whether he wants to be a fake [blank] or a tough guy he becomes human when we take out that outside acl." and about a quarterback, "we [blank] him right there, remember me i have the first one, i've got the first one," and there the film gregg williams was doing this, kind of rubbing his hands together saying it's all about money, you do it i will pay you. >>shepard: what effect on sean payton...