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Densely populated areas they can find, quite similar to today's tactics. a lot of the times isis-k seem to be blamed for things. a lot of the things they're blamed for, some suggest may be other rogue groups like the taliban or even al qaeda doing things and blaming isis. but at the same time, too, the attack today, they go into a densely populated area, detonate one blast, general mckenzie talked about gunfire after that, as well. and then a secondary blast. you have one more thing to think about, it appears that this attacker was able to kill a horrifying number of u.s. personnel. that must ...

Through my head about what might be going on here. but is there any way to know whether this is serious business? organized, al qaeda type? international? domestic? or renegade group? what are we calling them, rogue groups? i don't know how to read the language here what we're looking at. >> yeah. we don't know from that and don't know if that's a real phone call or fake phone call, like he feels somebody is watching him when he's about to place the device so he kind of acts like he's making a call then, you know, i'm putting down my bag while i make the call. it could be that as well. but if ...

Trying to show that they can break into a network it is now rogue nations, rogue individuals, rogue groups, actually using cyber attacks as a way to promote their agenda. >> and of course, the fbi has traced the signer breach at sony to north korea, that nation's government upset over the movie studio's now canceled christmas release of "the interview", a comedy about a cia plot to assassinate north korean leader jim jong un. gretchen? >> how difficult is it for a company to safeguard against these signer threats because we saw what happened to sony. there's a ton more companies out there that...

Laden was living in abbottabad. its ambassador pushed back yesterday saying there were other rogue groups in the country b that could have been involved. >> surrounded on three sides -- >> if any member of the pakistani government, the pakistani intelligence service knew where osama bin laden was, we would have taken action. bin laden's presence in pakistan was not to pakistan's advantage. we still have a mini jihady has-beens from the 1980s who are still alive, well and kicking and some of them could have been helping them but they are not in the state of pakistan today. >> has-beens from the...