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He could do it himself, but not only has he not delivered, he's punting it to congress. take a listen. >> one more question on student loans. i think you said last week that you were working on a plan to help students pay. but what about president biden's campaign to forgive or cancel $10,000 of student debt -- pardon me. what is the message to those people who feel that he's yet to follow through on that promise? >> congress sends him a bill, he's happy to sign it. they haven't sent him a bill on that yet. >> student loans a huge challenge in this country, going into midterms, lots of young f...

That because he did properly invoke a fifth amendment privilege. the other guys they didn't do it procedurally right. if i'm the doj i'm saying too bad, too slow. stone is just delaying the inevitable. we're going to have to hear from him as with the others. >> and you know, roland, it's really frustrating because it feels like so far the people who have been held accountable are these low rank and file folks, you know, when are we going to see some accountability for trump's inner circle? we know don jr. was around text messages revealed this week about rick perry potentially giving them this...

Very limited warning, and what we have to come to grips with here, we've got to come to grips with in this country is that capitalism has been focused so much -- it's been about money, money, money as opposed to the human being, as opposed to what's right, what's fair, what's just, and that's been a problem in this country, and we must contend with that, and we must challenge these companies that are benefitting from this free labor. that is wrong. it not right, and unfortunately we have too many people who want cheap products. in order to get cheap products, you need to have cheap labor, and ...

Mainstream, not to debt collectors. if you want your voice heard, get out there and get your voice heard. i guarantee if there's a ground swell of people around the country speaking, joe biden will have what it takes to get it done, but we have to speak up and do this. and this is true for everything, even with what happened on january 6th. you know, the biggest defining question of our time is not whether our democracy will protect us, it's whether we will protect our democracy. we're going to step up and step in, get off the sidelines, get on the front lines and fight like held with the thin...

Against the unemployed blogger now living on a golf course, potential co-conspirators have been exposed among sitting elected law makeers and roger stone said he invoked the fifth for every single question during his hearing. to paraphrase denzel's oscar winning performance that he once said, they build jails because of you. joining me now is katie fang, co-host of cnbc's money court and msnbc legal contributor and roland martin, host of roland martin unfiltered daily digital show. roland, your background is very noisy and busy, my friend. you're joining us from atlanta. happy to have you. i w...