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Seconds out of ad and tell me how potent you think it is politically in the five battleground states they will hear this part of this ad against romney. >> okay. >> i was devastated. it makes me angry. those guys were all rich. they all have more money than they will ever spend yet they didn't have money to take care of the very people who made the very money for him. >> bain capital walked away with a lot of money that they made off of this plant. >> there was even one point in that ad, donald, in which the term vampire was used. how do you tell the american people who are suffering so incred...

Involvement so there's an admission in the gov romney ad. is that fair? >> everybody was trying to get the subsidies there. you said it. steel was being dumped from other nations." they were dumping steel on us like never before and it was hard to compete and the government was trying to help out and sometimes that's not the worst thing in the world. and that was omitted, but the government was trying to help out in order to compete. now frankly, i would have done it a little bit differently. i would have come down on the nations that were doing the dumping and believe me, they should still co...

Mills went under, including legitimate le ham steel wishes was the second largest steel mill at the time because there was dumping by foreign companies by cheaper steel here in the united states so nobody wanted to buy domestic steel. >> that's true. >> so would that make it unfair? >> it certainly makes it unfair. but it's almost like what else is new? if you look what's going on with foreign countrys and foreign companies right now, how they are subsidized over our companys so it is really unfair. frankly, if you look at that ad, i think that ad was extremely unfair and it's the topic of a l...

I want wonder who you thought about the obama campaign ad which is zeroing in on gov. romney and when he was at bain capital and handing the steel mill. >> it's getting nasty and perhaps on both sides. but in particular when they make an ad like that which is so unfair, they want to save companies, whether it's bain or somebody else, in most cases. they want to save companies. and governor romney did a fantastic job at bain. not only in terms of the jobs he produced, but also in terms of creating and saving companys. he did a great job. and it's very, very unfair to pick a company and say, so,...

It was a good anything i moved ton another company and another job or whatever they might have said. but i thought that the obama ad was actually more unfair, if you can use that term. >> is it not -- i mean, in look at these ads, ads as a voter, viewer,, what i would have liked to have had the information in the obama ad against gov romney that, number one, gov romney was out of bain two years before it happened. he was off doing the olympics. >> by the way, greta, that's a very big statement. >> no, no, i'm just saying that. and i think it's a reflection on the candidates when they do that. ...