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Also from iowa, national fairs editor for new york magazine and msnbc political analyst, john heilemann. thank you both for joining me tonight. >> good evening, lawrence. >> howard, you 2003ed on this issue of the santorum surge. you tweeted in des moines romney circle says it's okay if santorum surges a little. they'd rather have him as the cultural right foe than newt ori >> yes. well, i suppose maybe they should be careful what they wish for. >> yeah. >> but their reasoning was was this. their reasoning was this, that south carolina's the place where mitt romney's almost certainly going to ...

Editor for new york magazine and msnbc political analyst, john heilemann. thank you both for joining me tonight. >> good evening, lawrence. >> howard, you 2003ed on this issue of the santorum surge. you tweeted in des moines romney circle says it's okay if santorum surges a little. they'd rather have him as the cultural right foe than newt or rick. why? >> yes. well, i suppose maybe they should be careful what they wish for. >> yeah. >> but their reasoning was was this. their reasoning was this, that south carolina's the place where mitt romney's almost certainly going to lose. that's the thir...