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With the man who tried to use many levers to overturn the 2020 election. here is that they. we will get to pence in the next segment. just for what you saw from him, -- says anything that you need to know about the republican party. these committee parties, i worked with many of those people. many of them who were there since the mid romney era or before. this is not all 160 people that you look at and say that is an insurrection right there. this is a group of people that wants to hold on to the power within the committee. they need to say popular with the people who had the grassroots. the p...

They are sending a message to cease and desist -- that continues to be in line, with the man who tried to use many levers to overturn the 2020 election. here is that they. we will get to pence in the next segment. just for what you saw from him, -- says anything that you need to know about the republican party. these committee parties, i worked with many of those people. many of them who were there since the mid romney era or before. this is not all 160 people that you look at and say that is an insurrection right there. this is a group of people that wants to hold on to the power within the c...

There is no reason, rachel, why this party was not prepared after everything that we had done between 2009 to elect chris christie in knowledge, bob mcdonnell of virginia to pick up the house and senate seats around the country, that they didn't have that ground game already in place that they like to vilify before, but got folks elected. >> well, when try to understand what is going on in the republican party, looking at very broad strokes movements inside the party, i feel like we had bush and cheney. we had the mccain/palin campaign. and that was a primary campaign. that was decided pretty ...

The mainstream, further to the right. i thought that ended with the romney era. but it seems like republicans still think that was a good idea. >> well, actually, rachel, it ended during the first few months of my campaign, of my chairmanship. we sat down with a lot of tea party activists after the scarzafava race in spring of 2009. largely a lot of other nomination processes had started, and that effort was under way. so what we tried to do is get in front and say look, let's cooperate, let's work together, because you can't go after our incumbents in states like delaware and colorado and uta...

Ground with state party organizations? there is no reason, rachel, why this party was not prepared after everything that we had done between 2009 to elect chris christie in knowledge, bob mcdonnell of virginia to pick up the house and senate seats around the country, that they didn't have that ground game already in place that they like to vilify before, but got folks elected. >> well, when try to understand what is going on in the republican party, looking at very broad strokes movements inside the party, i feel like we had bush and cheney. we had the mccain/palin campaign. and that was a pri...