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President's handling of iraq and afghanistan with what romney has said he will do. let's take a look. >> a decade of war that cost us dearly, and now for president a clear choice. president obama ended the iraq war. mitt romney would have left 30,000 troops there and called bringing them home tragic. obama's brought 30,000 soldiers back from afghanistan and has a responsible plan to end the war. romney calls it obama's biggest mistake. it's time to stop fighting over there and start rebuilding here. >> so of all you thought about of the wars we were fighting and you're trying to pick your cand...

Ohio. for instance, the southeast ohio they're really hammering the coal issue. also cultural issues because there are a lot of democrats in southeastern ohio but not many liberal democrats. >> you also say that because of regionality of ohio, 96 field offices, three times the number that romney has, does that mean he can be more segmented in his messaging? >> it does. in some ways that's a little misleading because the romney people are using republican hea headquarters. they have these little offices in a box. they set up instant phone banks, what have you. they're very mobile. they can get ...

Has been running away from this budget, the republican party has, romney has, and he really believes in what he is saying is the only thing he's done in congress. he truly believes in the numbers and cannot get his own party to explain how is this thing going to balance out? joe made it abundantly clear, if you're going to cut taxes and raise money to do it, what are you cutting? he didn't do that. on the question of vouchers in terms of what everybody says, let them have what he calls assistance in terms of when you get older you get a voucher. >> you bring up a good point here. we talk about...

Defense spending? >> you don't cut defense by $1 trillion. that's what we are talking about. >> what national security issue justify an increase? >> we are going to cut 80,000 soldiers, 20,000 marines, 120 cargo planes. >> drawing down? >> don't cut the military by $1 trillion, not increase it by $1 million, don't cut it by $1 trillion. >> congressman burgess, what the democrats are saying romney would spend over $2 trillion more in defense than obama while at the same time, he's promising to balance the budget. how does that math add up? >> well, look, the first thing of course that has to be...

Could debate that. he's hand waived in the direction of limiting deduction as one possible way he might be able to get the math to work. it's like nailing jello to the wall. we can't debate the plan because we don't know what it looks like. >> a number of people in the think tank world have assessed this which claims there's an $85 billion short fall. if you use romney's plan there's $85 billion left over and that the middle class will have to pay a higher tax as a result. first of all, romney has said the middle class will not pay higher taxes. there are a number of other things that the tax ...