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Oig today saying romney won the debate, but it was no game changer. and jared bernstein, msnbc contributor and former chief economist for vice president joe biden. bb, let me start with you. what are your thoughts? >> first of all, romney won a victory that was a victory of performance art built on a whole set of lies. i think people have counted up to 28 to 30 lies. and i actually think the president deserves some credit for at a couple of critical points holding romney accountable. it's a big victory to get romney to own voucher care as a replacement for medicare and the president also took ...

Explains he was listless and a little bit, shall we say, he pondered a long time. >> we've seen him ponder a lot in the speeches. it was business consultant versus college professor. sort of harvard versus harvard. no question harvard business school versus harvard law school. no question that president obama showed his campaign has been doing the work for him and mitt romney has been doing the work for his campaign. we'll see what happens going forward. pout a question, the obama supporters were on their heels last night. were disappointed. wondering, where was this guy who they've been seein...

Over the last couple of weeks. it's really hurt them. >> well, it has. they know it's hurt them. and you've heard mitt romney talk about the $17,000 bucket, if you will. the idea of, as he's been asked about detail, and the romney folks say, you know, that he will try to put a little bit of meat on the bones of this, in order to try to reassure these folks that don't believe that he's somehow looking out for them. you know, we did a fascinating thing the msnbc/"wall street journal" poll. we asked anybody who told us they were either undecided or only leaning obama and romney, we asked them thi...

Abroad. >> shep: the presidential nominees delivering high profile speeches about the challenges the world faces. >> syria witnessed the killing of tens of honests of people. >> the attacks on the civilians in benghazi were attacks on america. >> iran is moving toward nuclear weapons capability. >> we face a choice between the forces that will drive us apart and the hopes that we hold in common. >> shep: tonight president obama and governor romney on where america stands. that's first from fox this tuesday night. the leader of the free world and the man who wants his job delivered big speeches...

Approve, while 46% disapprove. this is the first time the president's foreign policy approval numbers has fallen below 50% since april 2011 before he announced the killing of osama bin laden. joe trippi joins us. so the last segment the president wants foreign policy to be central to the election, is that true? >> that is definitely something he has an advantage over romney on. starting out to have advantage on economic stuff which is surprising. one of his big strengths has been foreign policy. >> greta: as we look at the last week with the numbers declining 5% and lindsay graham saying at th...