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Families another $4,000. the only thing in the bill that puts a burden on individuals to pay more is a penalty for those who can afford insurance and choose not to by it. and to be clear that is 1% of the population. in massachusetts where this was tested in the plan that governor romney put in place, 1% of the population ended up paying the penalty. the congressional budget office looked at this and when they looked at the federal law they said that would be roughly the same amount. 1%. for the other 99% it means security they and their family gets coverage. it means that the benefits that th...

History when the bush tax cuts expire? >> right. so the president, who said during the entire debate on healthcare that this is not a tax went on abc news, george stephanopoulos, and it's not a tax, i'm sick of people calling it a tax, it is not a tax, he said, and then he has his lawyer, this and this is what is important, the solicitor general goes up to the supreme court of the united states and argues it's a tax. reluctantly because they didn't want to say it was a tax but that's exactly what the chief justice and four other justices found were we now have the greatest tax increase on the ...

>> romney care in massachusetts have exactly the same penalty for people who did not choose to buy health insurance. >> jay, jay. >> you know, you cannot, juan, argue that a state-based solution, which is what governor romney put in place in massachusetts, has anything do with it. >> it's the same. same penalty, jay. >> and rejected. congress called the argument which is what your side said it would be -- >> jay, jay." and it's the same reality what you call obamacare. >> there's a big difference between the two. >> is that your argument? >> the separation of powers, we have co-equal branches ...

History when the bush tax cuts expire? >> right. so the president, who said during the entire debate on healthcare that this is not a tax went on abc news, george stephanopoulos, and it's not a tax, i'm sick of people calling it a tax, it is not a tax, he said, and then he has his lawyer, this and this is what is important, the solicitor general goes up to the supreme court of the united states and argues it's a tax. reluctantly because they didn't want to say it was a tax but that's exactly what the chief justice and four other justices found were we now have the greatest tax increase on the ...

Work. but when it was all said and done and we looked at the record we had during the years i was there, we added tens of thousands of jobs through the businesses we helped support. that, succeeding, failing, competing around the world, is what gives me the capacity to help get this economy going again. >> time. i mentioned one more reference to being a career politician. is it a disqualification to be in government all your career? >> it's a fine profession, and if someone were looking to say how can we restructure government and which agency should report to which agency, maybe that's the be...