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To president reagan becoming president reagan. if reagan had married first time around, he would have won an academy award. that's fascinating. other thing i've been thinking about is bobby kennedy example. you know, what kennedy joked about they had to find some way for bobby to get legal experience before he went into practice. so there are issues here. if he's the trump whisperer, if he's someone who can make him calm and focused, then that's a role that someone needs to play and if that's him, that's great. >> i think more importantly than that instead of being the trump whisperer because ...

He thinks it's interesting? >> that's the question of the day. some people say it's -- he wants the proximity to power, which is a very intoxicating thing. other people say, he's just a really loyal family guy, and his father-in-law, who he gets along with -- >> you've not reached a conclusion on that? >> i think it's so early. i think we'll see. i don't think anyone is clear on what the motivations are here yet. >> the great emily j. fox, also known as ejf, thank. we'll be right back. when you have type 2 diabetes, there's a moment of truth. and now with victoza® a better moment of proof.

Number one foe and flynn has appeared on a propaganda network for russia so what direction is he going to take on russia? >> who is he going to listen to? >> hopefully you get all sides. >> one other thing that's interesting about romney how can he take the job after terrible things he said? he's taking it perhaps because of the very things he said that he believes maybe donald trump needs moderation and it's on act of patriotism to step in and get between donald trump and the rest of the world and impose his world view on it. those two things are not mutually exclusive. going out and making t...

Signal for what direction donald trump wants to go than putting mitt romney in -- >> the one thing i learned about donald trump and mika and i have over the past 10 or 11 years. he cares about who got him good information last and who got him bad information. if you get donald trump bad information and you embarrass him, you go to the back of the line very quickly. he's very loyal right now to general flynn because what happened during the campaign. but the one thing i've known about trump's management style is it's based on performance. he's not, like, you know bush 41. i was with him at yale...

Governor no matter what happens. whether i join the trump administration in some capacity, whether i stay here and finish my term, and whether 2018 on january 18 is just another day at work in a job in the federal government or whether it's my final day as servant of the people of this state. i've had a pretty good run. one thing you should know for sure is that i'm going to leave the job in exactly the same way i came into it. loudly. >> joining us now, msnbc anchor and political correspondent steve kornacki and deputy managing editor of "time" magazine, michael duffy. good to have you both o...