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Funding, day care funding, all in order to get a consensus that poverty is not a disability and that programs that we need to put in place should help transition people, not make them dependent, and we were able to get 70 votes in the united states senate, including 17 democrats. >> governor huntsman, this question of, if the leader of the democrats promised to make you a one-term president, how would you go about dealing with them in a more effective way than you think the man you serve, president obama, did? >> i think it comes down to one word, david, and i think the one word is trust. when...

Overseas spending. this is how nations come down. you extend them too far overseas, and that's how the soviets came down. we have to talk about real cuts and we have got gotten around to this yet. if we want to change things, this is what we have to talk about. character is important and motivation is important, and history is important but i consider that in the debate format to be less signature than what we really believe in. >> you read my mind, dr. paul, and we will get to some of the tough choices on policy. and is governor romney unelectable in your judgment, mr. perry? >> you have to a...

Should, you know, deregulate like others talk about. but we need to talk, you know, supply and demand, everybody knows about supply and demand. they talk about oil. if we had more alternative sources we always hope the price also go down. but everybody forgets that there's another 50% of a transaction is the monetary unit. and you don't deal -- very few people talk about the supply and demand of money. and when you create a lot of money, prices go up. so it goes up in the areas where government most gets involved. you know, in education, in medical care, housing. and in energy. so prices go up...

Against you, bringing up some old issues against you. and now you have a former campaign spokesman who is preparing attacks against governor romney, calling him, quote, a predator for his involvement at the investment company. you agreed with someone who said that governor romney was a liar when he didn't take account for those attacks against you. are you consistent now as you're preparing to launch against governor romney? >> sure. >> how so? >> i'm consistent because i think you ought to have fact-based campaigns. to talk about the records. >> calling him a predator is not over the line? >>...

I never thought i'd get involved in politics. when i saw ted kennedy running virtually unopposed in 1994, a man who i thought by virtue of the policies of the liberal welfare state had created a permanent underclass in america, i said someone's got to run against him. and i happened to have been wise enough to realize i didn't have a ghost of a chance to beat him. this guy from massachusetts -- republican from massachusetts was not going to beat ted kennedy, and i told my partners in my firm, i'll be back in six months, don't take my chair. and i went in and gave it a real battle and went off ...