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I never thought i'd get involved in politics. when i saw ted kennedy running virtually unopposed in 1994, a man who i thought by virtue of the policies of the liberal welfare state had created a permanent underclass in america, i said someone's got to run against him. and i happened to have been wise enough to realize i didn't have a ghost of a chance to beat him. this guy from massachusetts -- republican from massachusetts was not going to beat ted kennedy, and i told my partners in my firm, i'll be back in six months, don't take my chair. and i went in and gave it a real battle and went off ...

Think people recognize that i'm not a partisan republican, that i'm someone who is moderate and my views are progressive. do you believe governor romney now when he says that he is a man of constancy and that he'll stand up for conservative principles? >> you know, i think this whole discussion so far has been very superficial. and i think the question in a way that you ask is superficial in you're talking about character, which is very important, but i think we should deal with the issues as well. i don't see how we can do well against obama if we have any candidate that, you know, endorsed, ...

Know, there are a lot of people who are tuning in this morning, and i'm sure they're terribly confused after watching all of this political spin up here. i was criticized last night by governor romney for putting my country first. and i just want to remind the people here in. >> announcer: and throughout the united states that i think -- he criticized me while he was out raising money, for serving my country in china. yes, under a democrat. like my two sons are doing in the united states navy. they're not asking what political affiliation the president is. i want to be very clear with the peop...

This is what we have to talk about. character is important and motivation is important, our history is important. but i really consider that in the debate format to be less significant than what we really believe in. >> you read my mind, dr. paul. and we're going to get to some of the tough choices not just on politics but on policy. first, governor perry, i do want to ask you flat out, your stake in your campaign going down to south carolina, is governor romney unelectable in your judgment? >> well, i think you have to ask the question of who is it that can beat obama? who is it that can invi...

It was the steel valley of pittsburgh and i stood up and fought for the conservative principles. i didn't do what governor romney did in 1994. i was running the same year he ran in 1994. i ran in the tough state of pennsylvania against an incumbent. governor romney lost by almost 20 points. why? because at the end of that campaign, he wouldn't stand up for conservative principles. he ran for ronald reagan, and he said he was going to be to the left when it comes to gay rights, abortion, a whole host of other issues. we want someone when the time gets tough, and it will in this election, we wan...