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Senator mitt romney, said. listen to this. if the president -- this is mitt romney. senator mitt romney. if the president asked or pressured ukraine's president to investigate his political rival, either directly or through his personal attorney, it would be troubling in the extreme. do you agree with senator rom y romney? >> yes, i agree with that and i've said that. i said we should find out. this is something i wouldn't have done. the question is, is it illegal and is it impeachable? i think that's what mr. rommie was romney was expressing. i'm not going to necessarily agree with mr. romney...

>> what about the other size? rick, we've talked about the doctori democratic field. what about kasich, flake, rom y romney? how likely is it the president will face a bottle in 2020? >> it depends on what's in the mueller investigation, what the committees might uncover. right now i'd say they don't have -- right now if i had to guess today, they'd say they don't have a chance because there's this democratic party -- i mean the republican is so supportive of donald trump. and donald trump has merged a reelection campaign with the rnc. it's going to be difficult for someone to breakthrough tha...

Or a ron paul victory that doesn't catapult anybody who we would see as a serious contender for the nomination? you know, it certainly provides with him some important endorsement in south carolina, and it makes it more of a game there for him. and of course, their real prize, florida, the next state down the line. that's where the romney people really hope to go head on head with whoever the other finalist is and make it clear that rom y romney's the nominee. >> john heilemann, very short, if ron paul wins the iowa caucuses, i have a few sort of elite type of sources around washington, d.c. w...

Think of people who are sort of automatically, you know, have nothing to do with the base of the party and the grassroots. i think we have to think about a guy like roger ayles who controls fox news channel, which everybody in the republican party these days watches. think about charles krauthammer, probably the most influential columnist on the right "paula zahn now". these are people in the republican establishment who have a lot of influence on what the base thinks. if you look at how they've treated sarah palin since last november, you' an uptick in the negativity expressed about her. even...