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Counsel onboard. it's rosenstein who makes the decision since attorney general sessions is recused to put a special counsel in place. and he doesn't hire just any special counsel he brings back bob mueller, the storied legendary fbi director. so if i was a betting person which i typically try not to be in investigative matters i would say there is another story here. there are some pieces of the puzzle about rod rosenstein's involvement that we haven't heard yet. >> i was saying to ron, jonathan swan in the break that what i would give to be five years hence looking back and saying here is wha...

He is just trying to control some of the information flow to the ppt by the standards of the two white houses i worked in this would be baby stuff. the fact that trump recents that tells us about trump. the fact that john kelly, though says he isn't taking it. in the piece "new york times" trumped to him in ways he has never been talked to before. he won't take that again. earlier at the arizona rally. john kelly was there and wouldn't come up on stage. we'll satisfy how the cultures mesh if at all. >> indira one of the things that people say about this white house is that, okay, maybe john ke...

Bombers they said they were wonderful young men. >> turnbull says they were russians not from any of the countries. >> then trump stays i will be seen as weak and ineffective leader in my first week by these people. this is a killer. . ron clan back with us. and ron we see the president is obsessed with how he will look weak if he simply goes through on what the previous white house had agreed to an international agreement with australia. >> the whole call was a fruit sal arizona o add of crazy process. with you it's not just the previous administration that agreed. the calls begins with turnb...

>> then trump stays i will be seen as weak and ineffective leader in my first week by these people. this is a killer. . ron clan back with us. and ron we see the president is obsessed with how he will look weak if he simply goes through on what the previous white house had agreed to an international agreement with australia. >> the whole call was a fruit sal arizona o add of crazy process. with you it's not just the previous administration that agreed. the calls begins with turnbull telling him he talked to vice president pence the day before and. and vice president pence said the trump admini...

I used to tell president clinton this. if we knew in the first year of the first term what we knew by the first year of the second term, we'd all be geniuses. nobody is really, ever, ever ready. the only thing that prepares you is the campaign. but you have a president that never held office and basically everybody in the white house but a few have never actually been there. you focused on me from president obama, i was senior adviser of president clinton. but you also had other members of ron clan, vice president's biden chief of staff was in the white house before. you had a number of people...