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For our police commissioner, bratton but the statements he made and letting them do what they wanted to do during demonstrations, pushing them and stand down and it went all over and let's face it, the mayor didn't tell this guy to kill the cops but he tweeted, in his own words, thises to the do with the garn and also the brown thing. so this environment was made and this mayor did not help at all. >> ron, do you think it's just the mayor? we've had months of discussion. even though the eric garner case and the michael brown case was not about race. it seems the entire narrative became about h...

Son, who is biracial, to be careful when dealing with the police, i think that set off this latest fire storm and quite frankly, the mayor ran an antipolice campaign when he ran for mayor. >> and now rudy giuliani. he did ron cun a campaign that anticop, he talked about centuries of racism, he talked about how he had to treat his son how to deal with cops and then the cops end up turning their backs on him. i've never seen anything like that. do you think that's justified? >> it was a time of high emotion. i can understand twhwhy the pol officers did that.