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you know, we've been talking a lot about racism in this country and race relations more broadly. after the fatal police beating of tyre nichols, an unarmed black man, there's been conversations about race, policing and about power and its abuse for years. complicated, of course, by the fact that the five officers charged in nichols death are also black. that's about how we teach about the legacy of race and racism in this country. and why it's become, frankly, so controversial. especially in places like florida, where the republican governor, ron desantis, have been slamming a new a....

It's just her and the former president going at each other. is she able to differentiate herself? for now, she has to explain how she was within the trump administration, supported a number of his policies, but beyond generation, how is she going to say she is different than the former president? right now, she hasn't explained any of that? >> a name that comes up is governor ron desantis. we talk about him a lot. and there's good reason for doing so. listen to what the former president had to say about a potential desantis run and issue of loyalty coming up. >> ron wouldn't have been governor...