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And one of his best options now honestly would be a presidential pardon. but that would not stop him from possibly facing jail time for those charges from the district attorney in new york city that you mentioned, which hit him with a new slate of criminal counts regarding to some of his mortgages up there. >> and marshall, the timing of that was really interesting. these new charges. because they were filed and made public immediately after the sentencing yesterday. do you think that was on purpose, and also too what is unique about these charges is that they are not pardon-proof. help us und...

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