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Good time. mark seemed ambivalent at times urging brett on and at times telling him to stop. a couple of times i made eye contact with mark and thought he might try to help me, but he did not. >> so compelling. and joining me now is u.s. congress woman anna eshoo from california and jason johnson, politics from the root.com and shannon petty piece of bloomberg news and the white house constituent for them. congress woman, thank you, i've known you a long time and you're a great person. did you know, was this bad when she first came to you, this is about attempted rape and fear of being killed ...

Aides here. so this is a president who doesn't back away from a fight. i will caveat all of this with one critical point, which is that last week on the white house south lawn, the president was very clear, he said he did want to hear the allegations from dr. ford, and if he believes they are very creditable, he said, we'll have to see then what happens. he seemed to leave the door open just a din a tiny bit midweek l week of potentially replacing kavanaugh, if, in fact, he feels as though this is true. right now, it seems he's gearing up for a fierce fight. >> if the president said let's hear...

Man and his presidency, dowd had seen the tragic flaw. in the political back and forth, the evasions, the denial, the tweeting, the obscuring, crying fake news, the indignation, trump had one problem dowd knew but could not bring himself to say to the president. you're a f-ing liar. joining our discussion now, mimi roper, politics editor at the root.com, both msnbc contributors and, mimi, what do you make of this report of plea negotiations with paul manafort tonight, one of the paths as bob woodward would call it? >> that would be significant no matter what kind of plea it turns out to be, bu...

But could not bring himself to say to the president. you're a f-ing liar. joining our discussion now, mimi roper, politics editor at the root.com, both msnbc contributors and, mimi, what do you make of this report of plea negotiations with paul manafort tonight, one of the paths as bob woodward would call it? >> that would be significant no matter what kind of plea it turns out to be, but it is worth noting that there are two different kinds of pleas that manafort could take. one would be a plea where in exchange for the plea he gets some kind of benefit to his sentence. you automatically get ...

>> reporter: when you say talk about changing laws, i thought you were going to say the laws that people talk about changing in washington like -- >> got you. >> reporter: gay marriage, medical marijuana. you're talking about when you can haul traps. >> absolutely. that's when politics and, you know, that kind affects. >> reporter: politics and lobster fishing kolg li ining c >> yes. >> reporter: you know who paul manafort is? >> no. >> reporter: you got other things to think about. >> yes. >> wow. vaughn hillyard, who has also been traveling the country, talking with voters. the root.com poli...