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Andrew johnson that is more than relevant right now. joining me now is michael harriet from the root.com. i'll start by reading you some of this. you wrote about andrew johnson, johnson was also dumb. seriously, he might be the only president dumber than trump. after he became president, he went around the country holding political rallies where he just talked about himself and in one speech he referred to himself 200 times. he called his opponents traitors. and the disasters toward one of the major reasons republicans were wiped out in the elections. and donald trump tweets so-called leaks co...

House floor vote next week. watching us here this morning, with us, jason johnson, politics editor at the root.com, steve smith, former republican analyst, former democratic senator fromna missoi and msnbc analyst claire mcskas kill, former u.s. attorney and senior fbi official, msnbc legal analyst chuck rosenberg and in washington host of "hardball" chris matthews. we have heidi priz ba la standing by. we will go back into the hearing as news breaks. you will not miss a thing. but for context i want to get a lightning round set of reactions from our experts but begin with the legendary chri...

Bribery or other high crimes, where is the impeachable defense in that call? are either of you here to assert there was an impeachable defense in that call? shout it out, anyone? >> if i could just spnrespond, me just reiterate -- i'd just like to say i'm not here to do anything, anything having to do with deciding about impeachment. this is your job. >> i'm joined right now by david jolly and jason johnson, a politics editor at the root.com. let me ask you about this performance by the members of your party. it was certainly an interesting show. everyone seemed to be doing their own thing. i'...

President trump and the first lady's attendance. >> we are joined by the president and first lady. >> as you can hear, that went on and on. the crowd followed up with some chants of, quote, lock him up, throughout the stadium. that's reaction of some members of the public. meanwhile, many anonymous republicans who appear to be sending up flares, one republican senator saying that the problematic public arguments from donald trump combined with a series of evidentiary bombshells all makes it feel like a horror movie. here to discuss, is jason johnson for the root.com. good evening to you, sir. ...

Is with us. jason johnson, politics editor for the root.com, and the daily beast, betsy woodruff swan is with us as well. matt, let me begin with you. what do you make of the president subtly invoking the supreme court and that this battle is likely to end up there? >> i think they would love for it to end up in the supreme court because that means we wouldn't have a decision on whether the documents they're obstructing congress from obtaining had to be turned over until some time next year, maybe even past the 2020 election. that's been their strategy all along, not just with this investigati...