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>> all i hear is how we're going to give more people access to the present system and how we're going to pay for it. and to me that's not the only issue. the present system doesn't work and it's going to take us down. we need a whole new kind of medicine. >> health care reform was a good place to start, but it will do little to address the root problems. we don't have a health care system in this country. we have a disease management system. >> people often think it has to be a new drug or a new laser or something really high-tech and expensive for it to be powerful. and they have a hard time ...

>> health care! >> when do we want it? >> now! >> all i hear is how we're going to give more people access to the president's system and how we're going to pay for it. to me, that's not the only issue. the present system doesn't work and it's going to take us down. we need a whole new kind of medicine. health care reform was a good place to start, but it will do little to address the root problems. we don't have a health care system in this country. we have a disease management system. >> people often think it has to be a new drug or a new laser or something really high-tech and expensive for ...

>> when do we want it? >> now! >> all i hear is how we're going to give more people access to the present system and how we're going to pay for it. to me, that's not the only issue. the present system doesn't work and it's going to take us down. we need a whole new kind of medicine. health care reform was a good place to start, but it will do little to address the root problems. we don't have a health care system in this country. we have a disease management system. >> people often think it has to be a new drug or a new laser or something really high tech and expensive for it to be powerful. t...

The present system doesn't work and it's going to take us down. we need a whole new kind of medicine. health care reform was a good place to start, but it will do little to address the root problems. we don't have a health care system in this country. we have a disease management system. >> people often think it has to be a new drug or a new laser or something really high tech and expensive to be powerful. they have a hard time believing the simple choices we make in our lives each day can make such a powerful difference. >> we're in the grip of a very big industry, and it doesn't want to stop...

To you does it seem as though from france that what you're watching in america is the rise of a certain kind of nationalism that is also rising in europe? >> not really. you know, we often say in europe that europe is the country of ideology and america the country of pragmatism. america deals with facts, growth and so on, and europe with great ideas. it is not so true. today you have a huge rise of ideologies in america. and these tea parties, i'm not so sure that they are going back to facts and root problems and so on. i hear ideology. as we had in the '60s and the '70s in france -- >> what...