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In stone on him. but what does this do for his legacy? >> look, you heard the term rorschach test before. people are going to think about -- the ink blot test that psychologists use. people are going to think of james comey and frankly the president of the united states what they are going to think. there are people who believe james comey was acting in the interest of the united states. the president's behavior was simply remarkable, regardless of what you think of the president. it's remarkable behavior when even the white house counsel doesn't trust him. there are also people that think tha...

Heard the term rorschach test before and people are going to think about james -- the ink blot test that psychologists use. people are going to think of james comey and frankly the president of the united states what they are going to think. there are people who believe james comey was acting in the interest of the united states. because, this is the point i was making earlier, the president's behavior was simply remarkable. regardless of what you think of the president, it's remarkable behavior when even the white house counsel doesn't trust him. there are also people that think that jim come...

Favor medicare for all, you find out it's kind of like a rorschach test. nobody really knows what it means. 58% of democrats favor medicare for all, but then you find out that also, only 22% of them want to do the full enchilada, where you take away people's private health care. so, who knows what any of it means! >> but to your point, governor, this space of medicare for all has for a lot of people remained a bit undefined. i think what we can agree on as democrats is that we believe that people should not go broke, because they have a medical illness. people should not be precluded to access...

The past hong kong police would typically a few letters of no objection to allow public demonstrations to last until around midnight but this weekend they decided not to issue such a letter and experts believe that this is a move for them to legitimize the arrest of demonstrators under multiple different charges while also using weapons to disperse the crowd you know i can't help but think of this as a bit of a rorschach test when i look at the situation. you can see the protesters and find them an inspiration that they are exercising their freedom of assembly and freedom of speech but from be...

Question. and that is what we are seeing play out now. >> it's interesting. we showed the vice president's interview with pamela brown, part of it. part of that was taking a tour of different facilities. one that had adult males and one that had children. full disclosure, the children that were speaking to the vice president said they were taken cared for. when you look at the video, and i will show you some here, going through an overcrowded, jarring is video of males in a facility, some were unsettled. some horrified. this is driving the debate. it is a rorschach test, to some degree. if you...