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Rorth stone. roger stone. we had the campaign manager tell us it drove him crazy. is he the person that directed that contact? is the by whom the president? we don't know. jeffrey toobin, we were all present dollars these 24 pages a few minutes ago and we've been looking through. i want to know from you, you're a senior legal analyst here. big picture, what is new from this? what do you see this jumps out to you? how does this change the story? >> it's -- it's two things. one is the sheer number of people he was in touch with about -- about wikileaks. among the people who had been known to be ...

Dealing with a foreign power seeking to interfere with our election is the critical point here and does stone provide more information about who was involved? how close it got to the president? that's what's critical. agree with the point that joe lockhart brought up about really understanding the distinction between opposition research and a foreign power seeking to interfere. what is striking to me is how the president has publicly said, you know, about the troufrp tow trump tower meeting, who wouldn't accept damaging information on your opponent? so the arrogance and huberance on your oppon...

Were on the inside. now, when i read this document, what i also note is he was not a passive actor. it was not him sitting back with the search engine and looking at google. he was very actively working those two individuals identified in the indictment for anything they had, but he doesn't seem to have been in direct contact with wikileaks himself. >> you lay out i think very astutely what is not in here and what could still be to come. but there are some new things in here, including direct references to the trump campaign. let me just read you this paragraph that jump out to us. after july ...

The agents stayed and went into the house and spent time there the answer will be probably yes. if they all left when they to took -- when they took stone out the assistance probably no. >> you've been pouring through this and just so people know why the fbi showed up, they allege high-level of obstruction here by roger stone. k the extents he went to lie and deceive and tamper according to this document is extraordinary. >> jeff just pointed out the volume of contacts. there are an extraordinary -- this isn't one conversation with trump -- this isn't one communication with wikileaks, but then...

Radio host, he's the recipient of some of these a mails here. but the big news this this indictment is the reference to people in the trump campaign. those people were outsiders. the -- what we're going to have to figure out or wait to find out is who was stone talking to on the inside of the campaign? because that's what's really the potentially explosive thing here. it's one thing to talk about these various sort of people who were around the -- around the trump campaign but not part of it like corsi, but if he was -- if stone was in touch with people in the campaignard of course with candid...