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Especially after his humiliating defeat that if there's no wall, there's no daca." he goes on. but the president, we don't know what he wants. that point has been emphasized over and over again. the senate could get a deal, has no implication on what passes the house. in part because they don't know what the president wants. so what is the biggest holdup here? >> well, i think we know what the president wants. if you look at what he said during the campaign, not just what he said but how he said it, and the vulgarrity, obscenity, rough talk recently and look at what people around him are sayin...

Africa. as you know, there were about a dozen people in the room, cross conversations, rough talk by a lot of people in the room, but what i understood him to be saying is let's move away from the countries and let's look at the individual and make sure that those we bring here can contribute to our society. >> do you remember the president saying expressly, i want more europeans? why can't we have more immigrants from norway ? >> i do remember him asking about the concept of underrepresented countries as a fix. this was in the conversation about removing the diversity lottery and how we could...