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Trillion dollars of loopholes but nobody wants to eliminate the home interest deduction and all of that stuff is off the table. the times had an editorial all of these loopholes. you add up those numbers and it's a rounding error. the only way to deal with this is to attack the big stuff. >> conservatives are coming off their annual conference over the weekend but still big signals the party is not on the same page going forward. republican party chair reince priebus is pointing to branding as a major problem for the gop in the last election. >> i believe our parties had a real quality of cont...

Rounding error. $85 billion really, and we have north of $3.6 trillion budget. a 60 plus dribble defendant. if we can't get around to do something like this, we'll never get around to do anything of the things you outlined. >> well, aagree we should be able to reduce the deficit by this much and a whole lot more. and just yesterday for the third time this year i asked for a vote in the house of representatives on an alternative proposal that i put forward that would achieve the same amount of defendant sit reduction spread out over a period of time through cuts and revenue, and you wouldn't ha...

To pay himself. >> bell city council miss aprop yated $5 million. >> it's a rounding error. >> misappropriate. $5.5 million. who is going to miss it? >> arthur is saying at least maybe this isn't the best legal defense. he may actually get a few sympathy point from jurors? >> he might get sympathy points from jurors if they aren't the people he stole from. this isn't a sympathy case he can't say he is too stupid. >> that's what they're going for. the defense attorney saying basically on the paperwork yes he is guilty. he did something horribly wrong but his intent. >> intent was what. >> emine...

The issue, 85 billion in a 3.8 trillion budget is not a lot. in the scheme of what's going to be likely 10 years from now at a minimum of $20 trillion debt, rounding error, rounding error, rounding error. if we're fighting and g u you -f fawing with this, what are we going to do when we put the pedal to the medal? >> it's an educational and evangelical mission to get people to open their eyes to the real crisis here. the message from he' these demos over the last couple of weeks has been very coordinated. the woord wil world will end ift spend. that has it completely bass acward, right. it's b...

>> shepard: i feel ya. >> stocks have been on fire. they are a leading indicator. they lead coming out of a recession. they are doing far far better. what are traders trading on. they are trading on expectations what they hope is going to happen. what they might see tomorrow. and jobs continues to lag. a number that i know you will be interested in. we are producing more goods and services today than we were at the beginning of receipt session with 4 million fewer workers. so, remember, that the s&p, the stock market doesn't necessarily reward better numbers in the jobs market it could be the ...