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>> kimberly: that is a good impersonation, actually. >> eric: isn't that testimony we just saw with the gentleman from the d.o.e. nonchalantly saying $50 million, that is no big deal? >> kimberly: monopoly money. >> dana: the part, the apt of money that they are dealing with, it's like if you saw the great speech this weekend, if i find $20 in my pocket, that's a lot for me. but for the equivalent, bill gates for the money he earns he'd have to pull $12 million out of his pocket. $50 million to the department of energy given how much money they have is a little bit like a rounding error. it's ...

That sense or in money coming in, it would only raise $4 to $5 billion a year. if you raised the margin of tax rate on high income, that would raise more money. isn't that worthy to get the debt down? >> it is ridiculous. it's a rounding error of a rounding error. i did the math on it. the committee of taxation said y yes. it's a triviality. it will do nothing about nothing. >> it's misdirection! it's working. >> look over here at the -- it is working. demagoguery often works. >> bill: in the latest gallup poll, they asked would you favor congress passing a new law that would require household...

That sense or in money coming in, it would only raise $4 to $5 billion a year. if you raised the margin of tax rate on high income, that would raise more money. isn't that worthy to get the debt down? >> it is ridiculous. it's a rounding error of a rounding error. i did the math on it. the committee of taxation said y yes. it's a triviality. it will do nothing about nothing. >> it's misdirection! it's working. >> look over here at the -- it is working. demagoguery often works. >> bill: in the latest gallup poll, they asked would you favor congress passing a new law that would require household...

Got placed on administrative leave yesterday for this kind of behavior? this same guy, david foley, was responsible for overseeing $5.5 million of our stimulus money. >> well, look, you've hit it exactly on the head. megyn: 5.5 billion worth of our stimulus money. thanks, david. >> yeah. we don't even count 5.5 million down here anymore, megyn, that's a rounding error. [laughter] even if administration could cod affix the blame on george w. bush, that doesn't make their argument any better that the government is a lean, mean, fighting, fairness machine that is going to help people live better ...

Passionate interest in your product seem unwilling to front the company the seed money?" you're asking someone to be an investor versus being a customer. >> i think it's a good question. i think that in very large companies, that amount of money for them is really like a rounding error, if that. and i think sometimes companies are afraid they'll fund and then ignore something. and also sometimes it's more risk than they're willing to take. if they go into a similar business or work with someone else or deal with someone else, they don't want to have a conflict of interest in the future, so som...