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They can't take on cnbc moderators how are they going to take on putin? but i bet he'll be out there. >> even the people who didn't like him, who weren't on his side, will tell you he's a good politician. >> yeah. >> he's good at running. he was a good candidate, i should say. >> right. >> he's a much better campaigner than -- he's a much better campaigner than he is a president, no question about that. >> john, also tonight, there is an nbc poll, wall street journal poll that was taken mostly before this last debate. october 25th through 29th. ca carson 29. trump 23. rubio 11, bush 8. what's ...

Then it's really down to the other three. rubio, cruz and bush. bush is not out of this by any stretch of the imagination. he still has a very big oorgz around the country as we saw in his documentary. there's a lot of bush people out there and they know how to win elections. i just don't really believe donald trump is going to be our nom nay and i certainly don't believe ben carson will be our nominee. if that's the case, jeb still has a chance. >> are some of the supporters right saying the poll numbers don't matter at this point and the fact that he will still in it bodes well for him? >> y...