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It was right after the deal with mcconnell and schumer was ripping mcconnell and the republicans. so does the press enjoy covering democratic in-fights a much as on the gop side. >> i don't think so. but joe manchin represents a ruby red state in west virginia. he talks to republicans all the time. they are his constituents in many regards. he also talks to republican senators. howie: like mcconnell. >> once the crisis is over, he's like what are you doing, spiking the ball. there are other fights ahead. we'll be back at the debt ceiling deal again in december. i think that's why he thought it...

Progressives. he represents a ruby red state. what about that harold? >> look, i don't disagree -- first of all, joe manchin is right. everything that i said i think is consistent with a lot of things that have been said by even jonah. we have moved away from even passing a budget and appropriating money toward a budget. i served in congress for 10 years. we never passed a budget on time. that was 25 years ago. so we have completely gotten away from the process that my dad, when he served in congress some 40 years ago was indeed the case. so i hope we can get back to that but there is no doubt...

>> mike: west virginia senator joe manchin is pretty matter-of-fact about the situation. take a listen. >> any of them who believe they're much more aggressive are much more liberal. elect more liberals i guess. >> here represents a ruby red state. is manchin doing what he is supposed to do? >> the people of his state one for president trump of the last election by a wide margin. he has people in the state who care about fiscal sanity and he is hearing them as he looks at the bills that are insane by any measurement comes to spending. the centrists are pushing back. they feel like the presiden...

We have to come up with a deal and let's just run on it and focus on it the next time around. that's not where they are right now. and one of the reasons i just want to add that that's not just getting through, even though there is this large progressive wing of the party, particularly in the house, is because there is a very deep philosophical divide inside the democratic party, because you still have moderates like joe manchin, who represents a ruby red state, and some moderates in the state who say wait, we're not ready to do that big social safety net piece until we are really clear about ...

Lie about election fraud metastasizing all across the country as we've been discussing, republicans running for office are preemptively making false claims of voter fraud before any votes have already been cast all in a cynical attempt to discredit elections that don't go their way. plus the ruby red state where deaths are now outpacing births all because of covid and the very high percentage of residents there who still refuse to get vaccinated. and later in the hour, how first lady dr. jill biden is trying to make good on her husband's most elusive campaign promise so far, uniting this c...