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Had was the enforcer. so so there were unwritten rules. and if you violated them, she would enforce the rules and do it in a way that was pretty effective. i don't remember my dad doing that. >> mom is amazing. some he really is. she is no smart, is so sharp, so aware. she's wit y. she's wise. i would say her role, more important role was keeping us humble and grounded. she was a rule maker and she had high expectations for keeping things neat and just basic rules. and she would let us know when we hadn't met those rules. but, you know, she would never let us think we were any different or bet...

Effective. i don't remember my dad doing that. she was a rule maker and she did have high expectations for keeping things neat and just basic rules, and she would let us know and we had met those rules and she would never let us think we were any different or better than others and she was -- she just kept us grounded. >> it's a very emotional time, but i will tell you one thing, when barbara bush, john, everybody listened. >> indeed. especially her sons. jamie, thank you very much. >> joining me now, carl anthony the story and the auth are on of more than a dozen books about first ladies. you...

Pretty effective. i don't remember my dad doing that. >> yeah, i mean, for example if we left clothes on the floor in our room or didn't hang up a wet bathing suit, grandmother would be direct and you would hear it sometimes from the other side of the house or outside for us to get our butt back inside and clean up quickly. >> i think the reasons that my cousins and i have turned out to be productive citizens and have never taken the fact that we were grandkids of the president for granted is because of barbara bush. god picked two people and said you guys would be a good team and do a lot of ...

By being together. >> mom is amazing. she is smart, sharp, aware. she is witty, wise. i would say it was her role more important role was keeping us humble and grounded. i mean she was a rule maker and she did have high expectations for keeping things neat and just basic rules. and she would let us know when we hadn't met those rules. but she would never let us think we were different or better than others. and she kept us grounded. >> jamie, you obviously have interviewed her so much over the years and just in the reading i have been doing in the last couple of hours about her life, i am stru...

He would not take any questions on this. he said they are studying it. it's a draft bill. any final decision on what to do would be taken by president putin. some of the strongest comments we got today came from the deputy foreign minister. i want to read you some of what he said quoted by a russian news agency. he said, what is happening does not fit the framework of common sense. the aunle authors and sponsors of this legislation are taking a serious step towards the destruction of normalizing relations with russia. we're in an inflection point how russia views the trump administration. when...