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Making. so they like her. and you know, i know you mentioned some views from some -- i mean, epa's always going to be a lightning rod. they're involved in so many major rule makings, involved in the climate change effort. they're always to have their krit critics and gina mccarthy hear a lot of -- a lot of that. >> i don't want to enflame anything that's not there but you point out that veteran industry lobbyist points out that he has worked with her in the past and while they disagree with the final rules, they found her to be someone open and engagement and regulated community. you have john...

Bills, most of the rules, i think, haven't been written. >> you think of the first obama term with its slow growth, and regulatory frenzy, a nightmare, but really, from that 2010 law, most of the burden on the economy hasn't happened yet. the law firm does a scoreboard and they say they're 398 rule makings, separate rule makings that were required by the law. >> these are relatively major. >> yeah, really, remaking the financial markets, only a third of them have been enacted, so, most of the big regulatory footprint is coming in the second obama term, even from the law that was passed. >> and...

Think, haven't been written. >> you think of the first obama term with its slow growth, and regulatory frenzy, a nightmare, but really, from that 2010 law, most of the burden on the economy hasn't happened yet. the law firm does a scoreboard and they say they're 398 rule makings, separate rule makings that were required by the law. >> these are relatively major. >> yeah, really, remaking the financial markets, only a third of them have been enacted, so, most of the big regulatory footprint is coming in the second obama term, even from the law that was passed. >> and give us an example or two? ...

Think, haven't been written. >> you think of the first obama term with its slow growth, and regulatory frenzy, a nightmare, but really, from that 2010 law, most of the burden on the economy hasn't happened yet. the law firm does a scoreboard and they say they're 398 rule makings, separate rule makings that were required by the law. >> these are relatively major. >> yeah, really, remaking the financial markets, only a third of them have been enacted, so, most of the big regulatory footprint is coming in the second obama term, even from the law that was passed. >> and give us an example or two? ...

Jurisdiction over what is actually, if i'm not mistaken, the largest part of the capital markets which is the derivatives market the number of which is a mind blowing number that doesn't mean anything to anyone because it's trillions, ten of trillions of dollars if i'm not mistaken. is that a valued criticism of dodd-frank or need you the tools you need to rein in the abuses we saw? >> give you some sense. we currently look at before we had todd-frank about $5 trillion and trillion may not mean much but say it's this much. >> okay. >> what we are going to look at is hundreds of trillions of do...