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New employees because of the healthcare bill and rule-makings yet to happen. but they know it will increase the premium or discourage them from providing healthcare from employees. uncertainty about regulatory framework. are they doing cap and trade through environmental protection agency? card check? this adds up and then they say look, we don't know what the rules will be, uncertainty about the future. we'll hold on to the money or investment somewhere else. that is bad for america's future. >> greta: thank you, sir. hope to have you on now and election to see how you're doing. is a second s...

Taxpayer dollars throughout. >> paul: everything else is not certain here? >> well, as you said, this debate, whether it's going to be 247 or 533 rule makings, enormous power shifted to the washington bureaucracy to make decisions, the tough calls that congress didn't want to make they've now punted to the same regulators who blew all the tough calls in 2007 and 2008. >> and one big problem at the center of this bill, i think, is a time bomb. federal reserve has been given hugely expanded powers and this is our central bank, it's supposed to be an independent agency. they're being more politic...

Taxpayer dollars through the bailouts. >> paul: everything else is not certain? >> as you said this debate going to be 247 or 533 rule makings, enormous power shifted to make decision. all the tough calls congress didn't want to make they've punted to the same regulators í blue the tough calls in 2007 and 2008. >> the federal reserve is being given hugely expanded powers, it is supposed to be an individual agency they are more politicized that is going to create confidence problems. >> we don't have a lot of time. are we seeing a revolt in the democratic party? one new york congressman mcmaho...

Republican critics saying, hey, they're saying we don't like business and look at the electric car manufacturers that we've invested in. look at all of these solar companies that we've funded. >> paul: we have no idea whether they might work. >> maybe they will. >> paul: i donwho knows. >> we've not run from the experiment and seen the job creation of 860 billion dollars washing picking out sectors, that didn't work, just like it didn't in the '70s. they've got to understand there's a real economy where people make voluntary decisions and they've got to let it happen. big financial reform bill...

Republican critics saying, hey, they're saying we don't like business and look at the electric car manufacturers that we've invested in. look at all of these solar companies that we've funded. >> paul: we have no idea whether they might work. >> maybe they will. >> paul: i donwho knows. >> we've not run from the experiment and seen the job creation of 860 billion dollars washing picking out sectors, that didn't work, just like it didn't in the '70s. they've got to understand there's a real economy where people make voluntary decisions and they've got to let it happen. big financial reform bill...