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Mcnally and the other gentleman, the equipment manager, clearly proves that tom brady knew exactly what was going on with deflating the footballs. why is ted wells trying to be politically correct here? that's the first problem. the second problem here is what a shame in how tom brady and the new england patriots handled this debacle. brady should have stepped up and said look i made a mistake, and i want to fix it and i'm sorry for that because the biggest losers in all of this are the kids worldwide. the youth that look up to idols like tom brady who now see that it's okay to cheat and that'...

The nfl was going to set up a store, it would be called scandals r us instead of toys "r" us because they have had so many scandals over the last year and a half, bountygate, adrian peterson and ray rice. this incident with tom brady, anna in my opinion, is bigger than football and that's why goodell has to step up and pose a greater penalty here because this is about the moral fiber of our community, about the moral fiber of kids growing up. it's bigger than you and i, you played sports in college, you know how important it is to live by the rules. and goodell has to penalize tom brady. make ...

And you tell me that tom brady didn't know exactly what he was doing? he did. he gained an unfair advantage. he needs to suffer the consequences. >> last word tim? >> i think everybody's focusing on tom brady, and it shouldn't be on tom brady. it should be on the nfl, the officials who should control those balls, and the fact that if he gained an advantage, every player in sports wants an advantage, pitchers are always try to scuff balls. we had a previous minnesota game where they were heating balls with jet engines on the sidelines and they were told to stop. because it's tom brady and the p...

Because he has lowered the burden. it's only more probable than not. the burden used to be much higher. once that penalty if a penalty comes out, i would imagine that the team will possibly be punished those employees will be punished possibly terminated and they may lose a draft pick i'm would not see brady getting anything more than maybe two-game suspension. >> brian, you know the nfl, the commissioner roger goodell has come under a lot of fire in the year first the domestic violence issue that came up. >> right. >> then there was of course the con concussion report and now this and the sup...

Quarterback in the crosshairs as opposed to the coach or another part of the franchise. >> tom brady, the golden boy of the sport. people may have envy for his good looks, his amazing talent you know. >> his hair. >> throwing the ball married to a supermodel. is this perhaps being blown out of proportion because people want to poke holes in his image? >> i don't think so being it's the second case dealing with his team and with his head coach, the new england patriots. i think what's interesting with this there are 31 other teams watching to see what's going to happen. cow how will goodle brin...