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Foot of actual physical distance between the two of them. you know, they worked the shelter together and all this stuff. so it was a -- it certainly was -- it was business-like, but you could just -- you could feel sort of this emotional exhaustion just watching governor christie. >> let's listen to the president's 15-minute rule promise that he made today. >> we're not going to tolerate red tape. we're not going to tolerate bureaucracy. and you know, i've instituted a 15-minute rule essentially on my team. you return everybody's phone calls in 15 minutes. whether it's the mayor's, the governo...

And the whole day seemed to have that sensation to it. >> well, it did. and let me tell you something about christie. he just seemed like an exhausted guy. he struck me as somebody who had been up for a couple of straight days, who was numb, a little emotional to what he'd been seeing but also numb to the destruction he'd been seeing. so you know, it was interesting. when the president walked out of air force one there was only one guy to greet him, and it was christie. and then the two of them just immediately, you could tell, were just -- seemed to -- they suddenly became inseparable, and th...