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Far. never. i picked us over him. [ bleep ]. >> we see this sad portrayal of these men who had money, power, and other things. but ultimately their lives caught up with them. i wonder if you think it's important that the public see and understand the consequences. >> absolutely. absolutely. and they do. >> and most of these guys, they wind up dead or in jail. >> absolutely. and that's been the record in the southern district ever since. i mean, lots of mob figures after i was there were prosecuted and went to jail as well. >> my final question for you is really big picture. folks watching can ...