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Realize the big manufacturing efforts they have right here. >> he does realize that, i just talked to some white house officials about that this morning who were saying look, what the president wants, bottom line, is more autos to be made in the united states. the problem for automakers is they don't want the rules changing, right. they build their business plans expecting a certain set of rules and that's years in advance that they're rolling out these assembly lines. they're rolling out new products. all with those rules in mind. if those rules are changing on them year to year, it's very di...

Republican debate, even after insisting for weeks that they would do no such thing and they could do no such thing. the whole issue of the difficult bias problems in the republican debate plans this year was first raised back in may by a really astute political writer at "time" magazine named zeke miller. and zeke joins us now with some new reporting on these new changes, how they were announced, how they came to be, and what they might mean. zeke, great to have you here. >> thank you for having me, rachel. >> so i know you've been reporting on this controversy around the republican debates fo...

Of saying they wouldn't? >> 100% a surprise, as late as friday, officials in the republican national committee were saying that they did not anticipate these rules changing, as you mentioned earlier in the show. cnn putting out that statement directly -- directed directly at carly fiorina campaign, saying if the fiorina campaign had those concerns, they should have raised them much earlier in the process, back in may. they didn't. so it seems, at least a few days ago, that nothing would change. and coming up today, just after the markets closed at the end of the business day saying, hey, we've...

Children into the fore by saying because they are adopted and somehow -- that is so wrong. >> it underscores the problem. super pack has unlimited money and had he necessity hide not giving donor lists. >> they do but after the candidates and who cares after that. >> i think the two rulings. my prediction by the end of campaign we're going to hate everybody. [ laughter ] >> millions and billions of dollars are going to be used for negative campaigning to destroy candidates. whoever wins is going to be somebody you don't vote for because you like it him but because you hate him less. >> what ...