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Whatwe that means, its to use e power of the office to obtain an improper personal benefit while ignoring orfi injuring the national interest, or acts in ways that are grossly inconsistent with and undermine the separation of powers that is the foundation of our democratic system. Now, this question of whether the president engaged in abuse of power came up before when this congress considered the impeachment of president nixon. And president nixon famously said, if the president does it, it is notde illegal. And this body rejected that because thats not so. That goes directly contrary to what...

Are now testifying in the capacity of witnesses. >> typically we administer oaths before opening statements. >> for witnesses. for witnesses. >> parliamentary inquiry. >> mr. castor was here with mr. burke presenting the opening statement for the committee. they were not witnesses before this committee. mr. castor now and mr. goldman arend witnesses for this commite and i willth administer the oat >> mr. chairman, if they were making a presentation, the rules wouldnt apply. >> the gentleman is not recognized. >> mr. chairman, may i have a point of order? i have a point of order. >> who is seek...