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I agree with that, mika. i hope we can extend that beyond just a discussion about jewish issues, israel. i applaud eddie. i think we need to open the space talking about race, talking about gender, talking about all of these issues that seem to ensnarl people and really stop the sort of debates we need to have in an age of identity politics. i think at times, identity politics run amuck that actually stop us from having these kind of conversations we so desperately need. in our silence and in the excesses of identity politics, that is where donald trump thrives. >> yes. and we'll have the conv...

Through those hearings and took lessons from them. i think that that is where most americans have their current conception of impeachment. it's a problem. because if you think that bill clinton and donald trump are equivalent then the experience of impeaching bill clinton where they took the special prosecutor's report, held no hearings other than listening to ken starr, reviewed no evidence and presented charges in a lame duck session in a baldly partisan fashion, if that's your perception, impeachment looks like a bad idea. if you look at andrew johnson, then you look at a process to remove ...

Impeachment hearings. you say this comes down to blip. you say because at the end of the day it made bill clinton stronger politically. >> the house leadership lived through the hearings and took lessons from them. that is where most americans have their current conception of impeachment. it is a problem. because if you think that bill clinton and donald trump are equivalent then the experience of impeaching bill clinton where they took the special prosecutor's report, held no hearings other than listening ken starr, reviewed no evidence and presented charges in a lame duck session in a baldly...

Go one way or the other. and late in his presidency, he allowed that we are enjoying sluggish times, but we are not enjoying them very much. his tongue may have run amuck at moments, but his heart was steadfast. his life code, as he said, was tell the truth. don't blame people. be strong. do your best. try hard. forgive. stay the course. and that was and is the most american of creeds. abraham lincoln's better angels of our nature and george h.w. bush's thousand points of light are companion versus in america's national hymn.

It's no exaggeration to say that the undecideds could go one way or the other, and late in his presidency he allowed that we're enjoying sluggish times, but we're not enjoying them very much. his tongue may have run amuck at moments, but his heart was steadfast. his life code, as he said, was tell the truth. don't blame people. be strong. do your best. try hard. forgive, stay the course. and that was and is the most american of creeds. abraham lincoln's better angels of our nature and george h.w. bush's thousand points of light