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Reduction, it means there's a lot of wiggle room, there's a lot of improvement in there to earn house company concerns and senate republican concerns the cbo's numbers. >> we discussed whether or not it would pass, you're not saying the 14 or the 24 million people who may not have health insurance between now and 2026, you're not saying that number is not important? >> no, the cbo is saying that number is less important, because they have a track record of being off -- completely off. you look at their reasoning, they're saying, there are going to be fewer people getting health care if we allo...

Top republicans in congress pushing back on the congressional budget office report, which says millions more americans will be uninsured if the health care bill becomes law. let's discuss, grover norquist is here cnn's senior economic analyst. author of saving capitalism for the many, not the few. perfect two guests to discuss this, gentlemen, thank you so much. the cbo, congressional budget office, analyzed this new gop health plan here's what they estimate, 14 million more people would be uninsured by next year. fwlz a $337 billion in deficit savings in there, from 2017 to 26. i know you lik...

Premiums jumping 20% by 2019, but decreasing in the years after that. joining me now is joe manchin democrat of west virginia. thank you for joining us here. >> thanks for having me. >> the cbo score of the new health care report is out. we'll put it up to these numbers, look at those numbers, what's your reaction to this? >> basically they're saying we're going to have a savings of $300 p.m. over 10 years, let me tell you what's not great and what's morally wrong. they're going do have a $575 billion tax cut to the wealthiest americans and insurance companies, that's not rig right. on top of ...

Lemon. major snowstorm just beginning to hit the east coast now. the justice department stalling, turning over evidence of president trump's wiretapping claim. the house intelligence committee warning they mesa pina the administration if they don't get answers. that's the capitol, look at that. that's the snow coming down, and there's more to come this is going to be nuts. if the plan goes through, a stunning 24 million fewer americans would have health care coverage 10 years from now. and a lot of them, trump supporters. what would the president say to them. >> mark, let's talk about this cbo...