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People who manage and run isis. they look and act like a state they are using those tactics and they are using something like our normal enemies don't use, and that is significant violence to accomplish their objective to essentially overthrow the bill: she left a 6-month-old baby with in-laws. she know she wasn't coming back. >> it might be one of the most enlightening thing about this. what the public doesn't understand and what none of us will ever understand. terrorists don't think like we do. if we try to apply our logic and emotion and reasoning to the way a terrorist things we'll never ...

He is actually -- i mean it's rare to get somebody with that kind of clerical background to head a jihadi organization. usually you get guys that haven't gotten the schooling. in fact, his successor was a physics teacher. not sk not somebody that has the emerges in the islamic faith. the question is, you know, the people who run isis, i've always said this, they're not quite the -- you know, to the manner born islamic fundamentalists. most of them come from the saddam hussein regime. one of the guys suggested to be the possible successor was perhaps a major general in the iraqi military. i thi...